Former House Democratic Caucus Leader H. William DeWeese, who has proclaimed far and wide his innocence in the "bonus" case now before Dauphin County Court, refuses to testify in the case lest he incriminate himself.
For the one or two sycophants (posting comments to this blog from deep inside DeWeese's rectum) who still cling to delusions of DeWeese's innocence, "I had no idea" is not an incriminating statement.
Therefore, "I had no idea" is a statement that DeWeese could not make truthfully under oath. And since DeWeese has been saying "I had no idea," for about three years now, that means he's been .... anyone? That's right, class: lying his worthless ass off.
Now, either the Gubernatorial Candidate who's been investigating this case for three years knows that DeWeese's protestations of innocence are false, and engaged in some shady deal to protect him from indictment, which makes him ... anyone? That's right, class: a repugnant hypocrite.
Or, the Gubernatorial Candidate who's been investigating this case for three years doesn't know that DeWeese's protestations of innocence are false, which makes him ... anyone? That's right, class: breathtakingly incompetent.
But, since no one in the Capitol media corps seems the least bit interested in figuring out exactly why Tom Corbett gave DeWeese a pass, it's likely that Pennsylvania will end up with a governor who is either a repugnant hypocrite or breathtakingly incompetent. Nice work, press corps. Three cheers!
Th weight of the evidene was already very clearly that DeWeese was culpable in the bonus matter. He should be charged with tha crime. It's not in the least surprising that he refused to tstify, sparing himself from pejury charges. Shouln't staff in Deeese's office, like Tom Andrews, also be charged?
ReplyDeleteTwo distinct points: First, so many have been implicated bu not charged, it raises a question about further charges. Bst example is we have been told Steve Webb has no immunity, but has admitted under oath that he did political work on state time an lied to the Grand Jury.
ReplyDeleteEven more peculiar, why has the House D caucus kept so many employees who have deeply implicated themselves, admitting they did illegal things and knew they were illegal at the time. Even f they had immunity, the caucus has no obligation to keep them, and presumably the caucus wants to punish this kind of behavior. Yet Steiner Blaner, Blss, Pronesti, Webb, Martz, and on and on are still there. Why don't Eachus, who has been implicated himself, and McCall, wo has been implicated himself too, enforce rules and get rid of them? Why do Dermody and Mann choose to employ these people?
Well, if DeWeese is not allow to protect himself as the CasaBlancaPA Defendants are allow, is that hypocrisy or hypnotic stasis?
ReplyDeleteI guess using CasaBlancaPA logic, we are going to see Veon, Rosepink, Keefer and Cott going to the witness stand in their Defense....or will the avail themselves of their right not to testify?
If one person’s rights are denied or mocked by another, so can they all, can they not?
From what I am reading here, the same sycophants are for Veon and DeWeese, and that is not a bad thing, is it?
Alternatively, is it Sycophants for DeWeese and Dilators for Veon?
What would we do if only “Delator” or in canon law known as “Delatores” were allow to roam free without being challenged, ignoring the total truth.
After all Cicero in De Officiis, ii. 14 expresses his opinion that such accusations should be undertaken only in the interests of the state or for other urgent reasons.
In Corbett’s case we know this is not the case, it is for a campaign dream of higher office, is it not?
Some at CasaBlancaPA after all made sure Mike Manzo was appointed to DeWeese Staff did they not, and now we know Mike Manzo admitted hiding many things from most Lawmakers, his wife, and colleagues.
Additionally, Mike Manzo is from Beaver County is he not and brought to the HDC by whom again?
While you at it, who hired Tom Foreman and the Brubakers?
Consequently, to stigmatize those staffers brought in by some CasaBlancaPA creators and who later appeared as accusers of their brethren, through the denunciation or should I say, “Delatio” of another staffer, such a “Delator” is to suffer perpetual punishment, but not without some back finger pointing at the same time at some Defendants for those decisions.
For God Sakes, it is time for Democrats to unite against the hypocrisy of Tom Corbett and his merry minions of campaign staffers free from any investigation, so far.
All in order that Republicans can win the House and Governorship, and keep the Senate and Supreme Court, for a Decade of Redistricting.
In an election year where branding President Obama and Democrats as a socialists will bring out a new 1994 political sea change, in numbers so strong, and societal economical 1984 world may be the result.
I prefer Veon & Company go free along with DeWeese and Stetler & Company, and this sham of an investigation be stopped in their wayward tracks of dirty muddy politics.
It is time for Mr. Inside and Mr. Outside to come together once again.
Let the first without HDC Management sins cast the first stone. If Veon is innocent and I agree he is, so is DeWeese!
Democrats unite instead of being divided and that includes uniting the Sycophants, Delators, and Delitors!
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ReplyDeleteTh weight of the evidene was already very clearly that DeWeese was culpable in the bonus matter. He should be charged with tha crime. It's not in the least surprising that he refused to tstify, sparing himself from pejury charges. Shouln't staff in Deeese's office, like Tom Andrews, also be charged? March 9, 2010 2:38 PM
Pantently untrue, the weight of the evidence is that Mike & Rachel Manzo, Tom Foreman, and Brubakers admitted they were the creators.
Are you unaware, Anonymous 3:09, that Veon and his co-defendants - unlike Mr. DeWeese, - are actually indicted in connection with events at the center of the "bonusgate" scandal, and are currently on trial?
ReplyDeleteSignor Ferrari said...Are you unaware, Anonymous 3:09, that Veon and his co-defendants - unlike Mr. DeWeese, - are actually indicted in connection with events at the center of the "bonusgate" scandal, and are currently on trial? March 9, 2010 3:20 PM
ReplyDeleteYes, I am aware that the Defense on Cross-Examination, have had State Witnesses (Guilty Pleas & Immunity) admit under oath, that Veon never ordered campaigning on State Time.
I am also aware, these same witnesses said DeWeese was not around, did not pay attention to those details, too, and that was brought out by Veon Defense Lawyers on CRE.
At the same time, these same witnesses said, they "Believed" or they "Think" DeWeese knew, but never said they knew for sure.
Plus, other State Witnesses said, Veon "Had To Know" or 'Should Have Known" or "Must Have Known" yet, Veon Defense Lawyers made it clear these witnesses were not telling the full truth and were coached what to say by the AG prosecutors.
I am in full support of all of you at CasablancaPa been there and know this is outright political prosecution coup for political purposes, so I do not BLAME you for anything, and I defend DeWeese and Stetler, and will defend Perzel too.
Let us remember, DeWeese did the right thing by not destroying any evidence, if he had all of you would be up on Obstruction of Evidence charges, and NONE of you are, and that is good thing, and shows DeWeese did the right thing.
At the same time, the very Emails the AG Prosecutors tried to sue against you were used by the defense lawyers, back on the AG's Witnesses, and that was good thing too.
You very well know, the AG Prosecutors refused to submit exculpatory evidence for all of you, but went ahead of these charges and lengthen them for an election year vote, you know this the true abuse of power, nothing that DeWeese did.
So why this entire animus against DeWeese, that did the right thing for all of the HDCC?
Lets remember Lincoln, although he is a Republican, A HOUSE DIVIDED CANNOT STAND!
this whole thing was named wrong. It should have been named B-O-G-U-S-G-A-T-E in honor of the SHAM and CHICANERY of Tom Corbett!!
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said...Even more peculiar, why has the House D caucus kept so many employees who have deeply implicated themselves, admitting they did illegal things and knew they were illegal at the time. Even f they had immunity, the caucus has no obligation to keep them, and presumably the caucus wants to punish this kind of behavior. Yet Steiner Blaner, Blss, Pronesti, Webb, Martz, and on and on are still there. Why don't Eachus, who has been implicated himself, and McCall, wo has been implicated himself too, enforce rules and get rid of them? Why do Dermody and Mann choose to employ these people? March 9, 2010 2:47 PM
ReplyDeleteSince someone brought up Delatores, I had to look it up, and it is quite applicable to staffers in the House Caucus you named above:
The term delatores was used by the Hispanian Synod of Elvira (c. 306) to characterize or brand as disgraceful those Christians to confront members of the same family, group, class, or community with a charge of having done something illegal, wrong, or undesirable.
This synod decided that if any Christian was proscribed or put to death through the denunciation (delatio) of another Christian, such a delator was to suffer perpetual excommunication, an extreme ecclesiastical punishment.
No distinction is made between true and false accusation, but the synod probably meant only the accusation of Christianity before the heathen judge, or at most a false accusation.
Any false accusation against a bishop, priest or deacon was visited with a similar punishment by the same synod. The punishment for false witness in general was proportioned to the gravity of the accusation.
The Council of Arles of 314 issued a similar decree. When it decided that Christians who accused falsely their brethren were to be forever excluded from communion with the faithful.
During the persecutions of the early Christians, it sometimes happened that apostates denounced their fellow-Christians.
The younger Pliny relates in a letter to Trajan that an anonymous bill of indictment was presented to him on which were many names of Christians; we do not know if the author of this libellus was a Christian.
According to Canon XIII of the Council of Arles, during the persecution of Diocletian Christians were denounced by their own brethren to the heathen judges.
If it appeared from the public acts that an ecclesiastic had done this, he was punished by the synod with perpetual deposition; however, his ordinations were still considered valid.
In general, false accusation is visited with severe punishments in later synods, e.g. Second Council of Arles, the Council of Agde and others.
These decrees appear in the later medieval collections of canons.
New punitive decrees against calumny were issued by Gregory IX in his Decretals
As I see it, these Witnesses testified that they broke work rules of the House and admitted it under oath, they should be fired for cause, and all pensions removed as well.
To reward them is robbing the state treasury of money from employees that did not earn it, and admit they took ill-gotten gains for campaigns.
Sorry Anonymous 9:09 PM you only gave part of the Delator definitions, the Roman version is much better and very applicable to Tom Corbett's Tactics and his state paid and state witnesses and current employees of the House Caucus:
ReplyDeleteBeing a delator could be a lucrative, but much despised profession under the Roman emperors.
The delator was an informer or informant. Delatores (the Latin plural of delator) were despised for bringing forth trumped-up charges and adversely affecting freedom of speech.
Often a delator was paid by the emperor for the accusations.
Delatores were sometimes paid a fee and sometimes a set portion of the victim's fine.
Money confiscated also went into the imperial treasury.
The people who were accused by the delator were mostly those of the senatorial class, so it is not surprising that the emperors especially associated with the delatores were those otherwise disliked by senatorial class writers, Pliny, Cassius Dio, Suetonius, and Tacitus.
One of the marks against the reign of Tiberius was the rise in the use of delatores after Sejanus gained power.
Two other emperors connected with a heavy use of delatores are the despised Nero, after the Pisonian conspiracy, and Domitian.
"But the words of the assassin sunk deep into the mind of Commodus, and left an indelible impression of fear and hatred against the whole body of the senate.
Those whom he had dreaded as importunate ministers, he now suspected as secret enemies.
The Delators, a race of men discouraged, and almost extinguished, under the former reigns, again became formidable, as soon as they discovered that the emperor was desirous of finding disaffection and treason in the senate."
NOW IF THAT DOES NOT DESCRIBE WHAT AG TOM CORBETT IS DOING, I DO NOT KNOW A BETTER WORD!
Straight from Corbett's interview with Jon Delano:
ReplyDeleteDelano: "So you feel you put in a full day's work for a full day's pay on the taxpayer?"
Corbett: "Absolutely. And there's another interesting aspect. We are the elected official. The elected officials are different than the staff."
Interestingly, he compares himself to former PA Rep. Mike Veon charged in Bonusgate.
"I don't get vacation. Mike Veon doesn't get vacation. Ed Rendell doesn't get vacation. We don't keep the number of hours. When I was U.S. attorney I got so many hours a pay period for vacation. We don't get it. We're on 24/7 no matter what."
Why is Veon on trial? This is great evidence for the defense. Veon's attorneys should ask the Court to reconsider the prior ruling regarding the subpoenas for the AG's staff.
so, can any of you legal eagles explain why the TERRORIST who tried to BLOW UP A PLANE on Christmas day is facing only 6 felony charges and Mike Veon is facing 56???
ReplyDeleteAnd AG Blessington is arguing with a wittness on wether or not he ever saw a filet mignon?? I mean, seriousely, what the hell??
Anonymous said: "Yet Steiner Blaner, Blss, Pronesti, Webb, Martz, and on and on are still there."
ReplyDeleteMaybe they're still there because they're dedicated employees who did what their superiors told them to do - regardless of who told them to do it...I don't know if it was DeWeese, Veon, Manzo, Foreman, all together or acting individually and, frankly, I don't care...they were low-level, non-decision making staffers who were relentlessly pressured to do certain things...in the case of LaValle, Sidella, and JP Jones, they were hired expressly for the purpose of fund raising.
It is always easy to say "oh, they could have quit"...really?...bills, rent, mortgages, families...give me a break...those giving the orders and hatching the schemes should be punished...if that wasn't Mike Veon, so be it...but lay off of these folks.
If, as is widely suspected, Mike Veon and Brett Cott are the tour de force behind CasablancaPA, why would they expect DeWeese to appear in court to help them with their defense?
ReplyDeletePayback is a bitch, boys.
Mike Manzo testifies that DeWeese was "out to lunch" regarding the bonuses. Scott Brubaker testifies that had the bonus scheme been brought to DeWeese for approval, he would have admonished Brubaker for bringing such a matter to his attention.
ReplyDeleteYet you continue to want to point the finger at DeWeese in this matter. When this is all over, it will be poetic justice when someone sues you for slander. It will be even sweeter if that person is DeWeese, who has not been implicated in Bonusgate.
We should all look forward to seeing Veon, Cott, Keefer and Rosepink take the stand.
ReplyDeleteI will bet MY bonuses for the next 10 years that that won't happen.
The case against Bill DeWeese is weaker than the one against Sean Ramaley, who was acquitted.
ReplyDeleteDeWeese and Ramaley face (or faced) nearly identical charges. Ramaley walked, and DeWeese will, too.
Neither one of those cases has anything to do with the illegal bonuses case currently being prosecuted by the attorney general.
Unlike Ramaley, who pulled out of his state senate race and watched the seat go to a Republican, DeWeese has chosen to stand his ground and fight. He is not going to let a Republican gubernatorial candidate drive him off the farm,
The difference is that, unlike Veon and Cott, DeWeese isnt' trying to drag others into his fight. It's called being honorable.
"It's called being honorable."
ReplyDeleteDeWeese...HONORABLE? Really? Are you serious? I simply can't even begin to understand how ANY single person on earth could ever think of DeWeese as being honorable.
These comments really MUST be coming from deep inside DeWeese's rectum.
IT isn't DeWeese who should be worried about his rectum at the conclusion of this trial.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said: "Yet Steiner Blaner, Blss, Pronesti, Webb, Martz, and on and on are still there."
ReplyDelete"Maybe they're still there because they're dedicated employees who did what their superiors told them to do - regardless of who told them to do it."
I sat next to Rich Pronesti long enough to know that he was anything but dedicated and certainly wasn't hard working... he was a lazy slob who milked the system... he played computer games for hours and hours (at miniclip.com)and refused to lift a finger to learn how to do anything... he was more worried about bellying up to the lunch buffet at Passage to India... i often heard him tell other employees about how he would simply load a case of paper in his car so he could say he was taking supplies to Veon's district office and claim his mileage to go home and see his family... bragging that he would make the trip every month so that he could make enough on the mileage reimbursement to cover his car payment...
Stay tuned... I'm sure more on the others will be forthcoming in the next several weeks and months...
Can you guys still post from jail?
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