Folks in the Capitol are always sending us tips and the latest rumors. The most active subject is whether or not former House Democratic Leader Bill DeWeese will be sucked into partisan Republican Attorney General and gubernatorial candidate Tom Corbett's "shocking" second round of bonusgate indictments.
Dodged a bullet?
Some of us at CasablancaPA believe Corbett won't indict DeWeese, and that he dodged a bullet when Corbett completely ignored the mountain of evidence against DeWeese that was available to him. Corbett's stunning failure to indict DeWeese suggests that DeWeese may be the person granted secret immunity in October of 2007.
As was well-documented in the Veon pre-trial filings this summer, Corbett had thousands of incriminating emails and hours of testimony that clearly inculpate DeWeese in the same allegedly criminal acts committed by the twelve Democrats who were arrested.
Corbett has apparently ignored all of it. Otherwise, why didn't he arrest DeWeese in July of 2008?
Further evidence that DeWeese has dodged the bullet can be found in DeWeese's campaign committee payments to Kevin Sidella's political consulting firm, the WS Group.
It's well-documented that, while employed by the House Democratic Caucus, Kevin Sidella was a taxpayer-funded political operative for DeWeese:
That's why Team CasablancaPA finds it shocking that from the time Sidella left his job as DeWeese's taxpayer-funded fundraiser, DeWeese has been paying Sidella's company a monthly retainer and expenses to continue raising money for his compaign.
Bill DeWeese Campaign Committee finance reports filed at the PA Department of State show that DeWeese paid the WS Group a $6,250 monthly retainer and expenses beginning on 9/14/07 continuing to December of 2008 (under certain circumstances campaign finance laws do not require State House campaigns to file a report for 2009 activity until 1/31/10.)
The total is over $125,000. You can see an itemized list here.
If Corbett were to bring charges against DeWeese, Sidella would be his star witness. So, it stands to reason that if DeWeese were in any way at risk of being charged then under no circustances would Corbett's investigators or Sidella's lawyers allow Sidella or the WS Group to take money from DeWeese.
DeWeese paying Sidella and the WS Group during the entire period of Corbett's bonusgate investigation is compelling evidence that Corbett is ignoring documents he's gathered and the testimony he's heard - notably Sidella's - and won't bring charges against DeWeese.
Back in the line of fire?
Others at CasablancaPA believe that DeWeese may initially have dodged a bullet, but that he recently stepped back into Corbett's line of fire due to the goofy antics of his crack legal team of Bill Chadwick and Bill Sloane.
Many conversations in the Capitol have been centered around how DeWeese's attorneys, at DeWeese's request, held back subpoenaed items from Corbett.
First of all, any sealed immunity agreement between DeWeese and Corbett probably would have required DeWeese to turn over everything he could find, and Corbett would instruct his investigators to pooh-pooh anything incriminating involving DeWeese.
However, it appears that DeWeese may have blundered by not giving everything to Corbett. (Post-Gazette 6/28/09)
According to the Post-Gazette, DeWeese's legal team kept at least one box full of very incriminating evidence from Corbett and it turned up earlier this year:
It's no wonder Sloane didn't turn over this box of evidence because according to the Post-Gazette, it contained some very incriminating information regarding DeWeese:
The conjecture in the Capitol is that Corbett probably could explain away sparing DeWeese in the face of a gargantuan amount of incriminating evidence, but he couldn't do that and at the same time excuse DeWeese for not fully answering subpoenas.
Consequently, the exposure of DeWeese's failure to fully answer Corbett's subpoenas may have put DeWeese squarely back into Corbett's sights and nullified the sealed immunity agreement Corbett may have had with DeWeese.
So, the debate rages on as to whether DeWeese dodged a bullet or if he blundered himself back in the line of fire.
If Corbett fulfills his promise to bring his "shocking" second set of indictments soon, then we'll learn for certain whether a sealed immunity agreement can hold in in the face of some clearly shady maneuvers.
Dodged a bullet?
Some of us at CasablancaPA believe Corbett won't indict DeWeese, and that he dodged a bullet when Corbett completely ignored the mountain of evidence against DeWeese that was available to him. Corbett's stunning failure to indict DeWeese suggests that DeWeese may be the person granted secret immunity in October of 2007.
As was well-documented in the Veon pre-trial filings this summer, Corbett had thousands of incriminating emails and hours of testimony that clearly inculpate DeWeese in the same allegedly criminal acts committed by the twelve Democrats who were arrested.
Corbett has apparently ignored all of it. Otherwise, why didn't he arrest DeWeese in July of 2008?
Further evidence that DeWeese has dodged the bullet can be found in DeWeese's campaign committee payments to Kevin Sidella's political consulting firm, the WS Group.
It's well-documented that, while employed by the House Democratic Caucus, Kevin Sidella was a taxpayer-funded political operative for DeWeese:
"Mr. Sidella told investigators that he handled numerous partisan political chores while on Mr. DeWeese's staff, including fundraising duties for Mr. DeWeese's re-election campaigns." -- Post-Gazette 6/28/09And, it was made crystal clear in emails, testimony and published reports that DeWeese directly supervised Sidella while he worked on political chores:
"Nick Rodriguez-Cayro, Sidella's attorney, said his client had cooperated fully with the probe. 'Let me make it clear: He was an employee - not a manager - who followed the directions he was given by his supervisors,' he said of Sidella. Asked who those supervisors were, Rodriguez-Cayro said DeWeese and his former chief of staff." -- Inquirer 4/6/09Incredibly, Sidella has been providing this incriminating testimony to Corbett for nearly two years:
"Harrisburg attorney Nick Rodriguez-Cayro confirmed another former DeWeese aide, Kevin Sidella, has been cooperating with investigators for nearly a year." -- Patriot 10/17/08Given that Sidella's attorney is publicly saying that his client has been providing Corbett with testimony for over two years regarding the campaign work done at DeWeese's behest, most people would think DeWeese and Sidella would have cut off most contact with each other. If not of their own volition, then certainly at the request of their attorneys, Corbett's investigators or both.
That's why Team CasablancaPA finds it shocking that from the time Sidella left his job as DeWeese's taxpayer-funded fundraiser, DeWeese has been paying Sidella's company a monthly retainer and expenses to continue raising money for his compaign.
Bill DeWeese Campaign Committee finance reports filed at the PA Department of State show that DeWeese paid the WS Group a $6,250 monthly retainer and expenses beginning on 9/14/07 continuing to December of 2008 (under certain circumstances campaign finance laws do not require State House campaigns to file a report for 2009 activity until 1/31/10.)
The total is over $125,000. You can see an itemized list here.
If Corbett were to bring charges against DeWeese, Sidella would be his star witness. So, it stands to reason that if DeWeese were in any way at risk of being charged then under no circustances would Corbett's investigators or Sidella's lawyers allow Sidella or the WS Group to take money from DeWeese.
DeWeese paying Sidella and the WS Group during the entire period of Corbett's bonusgate investigation is compelling evidence that Corbett is ignoring documents he's gathered and the testimony he's heard - notably Sidella's - and won't bring charges against DeWeese.
Back in the line of fire?
Others at CasablancaPA believe that DeWeese may initially have dodged a bullet, but that he recently stepped back into Corbett's line of fire due to the goofy antics of his crack legal team of Bill Chadwick and Bill Sloane.
Many conversations in the Capitol have been centered around how DeWeese's attorneys, at DeWeese's request, held back subpoenaed items from Corbett.
First of all, any sealed immunity agreement between DeWeese and Corbett probably would have required DeWeese to turn over everything he could find, and Corbett would instruct his investigators to pooh-pooh anything incriminating involving DeWeese.
However, it appears that DeWeese may have blundered by not giving everything to Corbett. (Post-Gazette 6/28/09)
According to the Post-Gazette, DeWeese's legal team kept at least one box full of very incriminating evidence from Corbett and it turned up earlier this year:
"Four sources with firsthand knowledge of the discovery say the box contained printouts of Democratic caucus e-mails and was found by Nora Winkelman, a lawyer for the newly installed Democratic caucus leadership, as she moved into an office previously occupied by Michael Edmiston." (Post-Gazette 6/28/09)It is important to note that the last occupant of Winkelman's current office, 622 MC, wasn't Edmiston. Between Edmiston tenure and Winkelman's, 622 MC belonged to DeWeese's Chief Counsel, Bill Sloane. Here is a directory showing that 622 MC was Sloane's all the way up to 2009.
It's no wonder Sloane didn't turn over this box of evidence because according to the Post-Gazette, it contained some very incriminating information regarding DeWeese:
"The data in the box also include campaign donation spreadsheets that appear to have been assembled on a state computer...If holding back this box of incriminating evidence weren't bad enough, a little-noticed portion of Veon's July 2009 pre-trial motion shows how Sloane also failed to properly respond to a subpoena by withholding documents subpoenaed from Brett Cott that connected Sidella to the Nader petition challenges. You can see Exhibit E 26 of the filing here.
Sources close to the investigation say the documents appear to suggest widespread campaign activity inside Mr. DeWeese's Harrisburg and district offices during state work hours...
According to sources, Ms. Winkelman found a box of printouts of e-mails dating to earlier this decade and stretching to 2004, some of them including responses by Mr. DeWeese. Several people who have seen the e-mails say some of them discuss plans to use caucus employees to press ballot challenges to candidates Mr. DeWeese did not want on the Pennsylvania ballot.
Other e-mails reportedly included exchanges with staff at Mr. DeWeese's district office in Waynesburg, Greene County, outlining election work.
Among those copied on e-mails was Kevin Sidella, who worked as an aide to Mr. DeWeese and who was granted immunity from prosecution in return for his cooperation.
Mr. Sidella told investigators that he handled numerous partisan political chores while on Mr. DeWeese's staff, including fundraising duties for Mr. DeWeese's re-election campaigns...
Two sources said [Sidella] has stated that many of his work days, especially during election years, consisted primarily of political chores, notably raising funds for Mr. DeWeese's re-election...
They include a series of spreadsheets dating to 2006 that Mr. Sidella assembled, keeping track of Mr. DeWeese's campaign expenses and expenditures throughout a difficult re-election challenge."
Computer time stamps suggest that the spreadsheets were likely assembled using software owned by the House Democratic Caucus -- a taxpayer-funded entity -- and a state computer.
Mr. Sidella testified before the grand jury that he had assembled the spreadsheets at his state computer in Mr. DeWeese's office with Mr. DeWeese's knowledge." (Post-Gazette 6/28/09)
The conjecture in the Capitol is that Corbett probably could explain away sparing DeWeese in the face of a gargantuan amount of incriminating evidence, but he couldn't do that and at the same time excuse DeWeese for not fully answering subpoenas.
Consequently, the exposure of DeWeese's failure to fully answer Corbett's subpoenas may have put DeWeese squarely back into Corbett's sights and nullified the sealed immunity agreement Corbett may have had with DeWeese.
So, the debate rages on as to whether DeWeese dodged a bullet or if he blundered himself back in the line of fire.
If Corbett fulfills his promise to bring his "shocking" second set of indictments soon, then we'll learn for certain whether a sealed immunity agreement can hold in in the face of some clearly shady maneuvers.
71 comments:
Yawn. You're repeating your own theories more than the world's worst stutterer. By now we all know you're rooting for the attorney general (whom you otherwise detest) to charge DeWeese with anything, including picking his nose if that's all there were.
In truth, all you have is "woulda, coulda, shoulda," when it comes to talking about this investigation. You're even running the same photos now.
Maybe it's time for a fresh cinematic-inspired approach. Change your blog title to "The Pink Panther" and start calling yourself Inspector Clouseau.
That would be more a more appropriate characterization.
We "root" for nothing. We merely present the facts (sorry if they bore you) in order to demonstrate the questionable nature of Corbett's politicized investigation. If Corbett were above board, DeWeese would have been charged a year ago with everyone else. If he gets charged now, it's simply so Corbett can save face. (The same applies to any Republicans who are charged). Our theory is that Corbett did not expect even to be pretending to investigate Bonusgate at this late date. The case was to have served its purpose and he'd be riding high on his BIG investigation at this point. But the best-laid schemes o' mice and gubernatorial candidates .....
We think highly of ourselves, don't we Mike?
Funny how you repeatedly forget about your co-defendants, especially those that pled guilty.
If I were a betting man - and I am - I'd bet DeWeese is toast. Even before the failure to turn over info, DeWeese would have had an obligation to be truthful ad cooperative. My guess is that AG determined he had failed to comply with the terms of immunity, if he had immunity, before Winkelman ever found those documents.
They should use that photo for every post! What a doofus!
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: the only thing for certain in this whole affair is that these posts will cease in or around February 2010...ironic that Signor et al won't even be able to vote against Corbett, or anyone else for that matter, ever again.
What about all the evidence showing that the Bonusgate group deliberately hid its activities from DeWeese? To be fair, let's not ignore the expulatory emails. My guess is that's what led Corbett not to indict DeWeese when he was otherwise fiercely motivated to do so. No one has provided a motive for a Republican Corbett not wanting to indict the then most powerful House Democrat. You're focusing on the wrong House leader.
We've seen no evidence that anyone tried to hide anything from Bill DeWeese. Indeed, staffers openly thanked him for the bonuses for campaigning("U R welcome!")
We have seen no emails in evidence which exculpate Bill DeWeese.
And we have indeed offered more than one motive for Corbett to spare DeWeese. For one thing, DeWeese paid $1.3 million in taxpayer funds to Republican former state Inspector General and Corbett campaign contributor Bill Chadwick. As we have said before, certainly the ability to broker such a deal was among Chadwick's bag of costly tricks. For another, an immunity deal would have been one of the only ways to break the legal logjam that otherwise would have prevented Corbett from getting his hands on any of the caucus' e-mails and seriously thwarted his political schemes.
I have no faith in republicrat Corbett, but I'm optimistic lifetime government-dependent DeWeasel will be charged. Forget the details, it's just flat-out unbelievable that he didn't know what was going on. He is the squirreliest little weasel ever (tied with Perzel), but he's not dumb.
Old News put out by Peep in Panic mode and you even admit it is based on rumors.
I guess you are upset that the Veon Motion Papers did not produce thousands of emails as you claim on DeWeese. I counted them, you just outright lied!
Here is your problem you have been telling Lies and Half-Lies ever since you posted articles here crying about being victims.
Now everyone knows when someone tells a Lie they can keep telling it, or admit they Lied.
But when someone tells Half-Lies the problem is they forget where they told it, and that catches up with them later.
Nice try, but once again, you lied about wanting to see others indicted, you keep saying you put up this website to Expose the Hypocrisy of Tom Corbett, and never advocated the Indictments of others????
NOW YOU JUST CAUGHT YOURSELF IN ANOTHER HALF-LIE!
If this is what you did to OAG Investigators, Grand Juries, and Attorneys then you now know why the OAG filed charges against you.
...never advocated the Indictments of others????
Nope. Never. Show us where we did that.
LETS LOOK AT REAL HYPOCRISY BY CASBLANCAPA:
"Signor Ferrari said...
We "root" for nothing. We merely present the facts....October 2, 2009 8:57 AM"
NOW LETS LOOK AT THE EXACT WORDS OF CASABLANCAPA ARTICLE:
"Folks in the Capitol are always sending us tips and the latest rumors....Many conversations in the Capitol have been centered around how DeWeese's attorneys, at DeWeese's request, held back subpoenaed items from Corbett....So, the debate rages on as to whether DeWeese dodged a bullet or if he blundered himself back in the line of fire."
NOW ONE CAN SEE, CASABLANCAPA STARTS OUT SAYING THESE ARE RUMORS, THEN CASABLANCAPA MOVES TO CALLING THEM CONVERSATIONS, THEN ENDS UP CALLING IT IS A DEBATE AMONG CASBLANCAPA THINK TANK OF POSTERS!!!
SO WE MUST ACCEPT RUMORS, CONVERSATIONS AT THE CAPITOL, AND DEBATES AT CSABLANCAPA AS FACTS NOW???
CITIZENS OF PENNSYLVANIA, I PRESENT YOU WITH A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HYPOCRISY, IN CASABLANCAPA MAGIC WORDS THAT TURN RUMORS INTO FACTS, CONVERSATIONS INTO FACTS, AND DEBATS INTO FACTS, BUT SAY THEY ROOT FOR NOTHING!
NOW LIES AND HALF-LIES SEEM TO BE FACTS ACCORDING TO CASABLANCAPA.
"Signor Ferrari said...
...never advocated the Indictments of others???? Nope. Never. Show us where we did that. October 2, 2009 7:18 PM"
Read your own blogs, the Veon Motion Papers filed by your Attorneys, and ask any reasonable person if you have not advocated indictments of others?
You cannot have it both ways, 3 guys in Manzo, Foreman, and Lavelle have Pleaded Guilty against you. Campaign Employees, Immunity Witnesses, and Grand Jury Witnesses have testified against you.
Yet, you keep calling everyone hypocrites, rats, and people that should be charged regardless of what others said under oath, and what you will not say here under advice from Attorneys?
"SO WE MUST ACCEPT RUMORS, CONVERSATIONS AT THE CAPITOL, AND DEBATES AT CSABLANCAPA AS FACTS NOW???
No, the conversations are, as we said, centered around whether or not DeWeese will be charged.
It is an inescapable fact that DeWeese either will be charged, or he won't.
We are baffled that a few seem confused about our motives. Our purpose is clearly stated at the top of the page. There are no hidden agendas here.
Personally, I appreciate the work going into these posts. I focus on the info and do my best to ignore any bias or prejudice in the telling.
No matter which party - Corbett and his Hateful Henchmen are running amuck and are riding roughshod over some lower lever (and I mean really low level) folks whose only crime is where they work.
I also appreciate the ammount of time and effort that go into these posts.
If these two weren't spending all day repeating the same things over and over and reposting the same 12 news articles, they might actually be out there figuring out more ways to personally benefit from our taxpayer dollars!
Keep up the good work, fellas! Idle hands are the devil's playground!
I was speaking with a Lower Merion committee person who is very active in Lower Merion politics. Much more Establishment and main stream than I. Her reaction to Tom Corbett that he was uncomfortable speaking about economic issues because, it was evident, he did not know much about budgets and economics and that she was uncomfortable listening to him. I have heard Tom Corbett speaking and he is boring and makes listeners uncomfortable. Voters will, I think, have the same reaction. He does not come across as someone who knows what he is doing.
Further she said, unless Corbett indicts a high level Republican, his candidacy for governor is probably finished. I take her opinion as indicative of what the Montgomery County establishment is thinking and how a voter will react to Tom Corbett who is not, to understate it, a dynamic speaker.
Hoeffel v. Corbett is not a debate that any Republican will be comfortable watching.
I note that the Brad Bumsted article where AG Corbett promised dramatic indictments is more than six months old. The "ongoing investigation" is now two and half years old and not a single conviction and not one Republican. It is an open secret among everyone in Harrisburg that Republicans were doing what Veon DeWeese Eachus Stetler were doing.
Is there a double standard? It seems so. ♠
Guzzardi hates Corbett? What a shock! I had no idea, and really how could I when he only posts that face twice a day. You Casablanca guys should give him a guest column on your blog. He makes about as much sense as the rest of you, and seems to have the same motivation.
I would love to hear a clear explanation in the manner of how the charges were carrier out of these purported crimes.
Please spare us all, of any impoverished witticisms for the indictments show the utmost efficiency of the OAG.
I mean did any of Defendants ever feel at anytime some sense of impropriety, some recognition of misconduct, some comprehension of unlawful behavior, some sense of moral misgivings in the performance of these various and sundry criminal acts they are charged with by the OAG.
After all, it is a recognized truth of all Jurisprudence that people create the laws that civilized people in the tradition of all for over three millennium, agreed to abide by these laws for the common good of our society.
For it is only by the Rule of Law that any civilization holds itself above the promiscuous squalid of barbarians.
I am fully aware that the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania is full of many prominent erections seeking election and re-election and no respectable man is that respectable.
The Public Enemy is, not a man, nor is it a character -- it is a problem that sooner or later We, the public, must solve based on asking first why were they charged, and what explanation do they have, for such motives for such crimes.
Thus, keeping this in mind, why did anyone conceive, plan, and execute these dastardly and scandalous crimes?
In response to Anonymous asking what crimes were committed, may I respond in kind?
“If one would give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest man, I would find something in them to have him hanged." - Cardinal and Duc de Richelieu
We all must remember that Prosecutorial Protection gives government officials the right to coerce witnesses to lie, withhold evidence pointing to a suspect's innocence, and work with police to manufacture false evidence of guilt, then use that evidence to win false convictions that send people to prison for years.
The driving force for making this case is some rather not pay for their misconduct.
First, Let us presume that the majority of prosecutors are first-rate people, and they largely strive to do what is righteous, make use of their profession to be of assistance to the public and avoid harming others.
Second, why would good prosecutors defend anyone who has made-up evidence to convict another of a crime?
Why would anyone shield the immunity of such witnesses from answerability to the community and the powers that be since, by characterization, those people are doing dire effects to guiltless people and thus are bad people?
Please think about that for a moment if you buy into the "few bad apples" theory here on CasablancaPA.
Consider important, if you will, that if the prosecutors obtain their way in these cases, those prosecutors will be practically invulnerable since their own peers control the professional organizations, which might sanction or prosecute them.
Third, what this means is the classical rule of law that once existed will be synonymous with merely the legal decapitation hanging over the necks of the entire Commonwealth and all Political Organizations in Pennsylvania.
Even before Pennsylvania became part of the United States not even Agents of the Crown were allowed to fabricate evidence and convict innocent men with impunity.
The Rule of Law meant something to all before and in 1776.
The most awful part of all this is that both lawyers and police readily agree that there is no such thing as a truly innocent person, what with the nature and extent of the laws these days.
How this squares with claims that we are living in the "land of the free" with the "rule of law" is a new mystery. What we have here is the final stage of "law-and-order" policies. In order to ram down crime rates, guilty minds, mercy and even accountability have to be sacrificed.
In Colloquial English “Who Polices The Police?
In my opinion, we do need to update the Rule of Law to accommodate advance sin technology that is affects every day.
The legislature should look into these changes to make sure the Separation of Powers is not abused.
If it is true that prosecutors could be sued. They might actually want to verify the evidence they were using and punish the investigators, witnesses, and police when they tell lies.
In other words, if prosecutors could in fact be charge for the misconduct that they enable, somebody might have to take accountability to stop the perpetually swirling mounds of evidence that go around the governments’ vague accountability, grey lines of regulations and inconsistent banality.
If this continues, average people, not just these politicos will be unwittingly committing a number of misdemeanors and felonies every day, because of such formless laws.
Add in new technology and its own complexity is easy to turn innocent political activity potentially criminal based on old laws passed before such technology existed.
It is the start of 1984 whereby one will not want to use any technology in fear of betraying his or hers thoughts or deeds every minute of a day.
I mean how many times did you say something stupid, think something horrible, and realized it was flaying emotions from instant reactions, never intended to break any laws.
Yet, your own thoughts hold you accountable and your deeds make you look criminal when just doing the job asked of you.
In my opinion, Prosecutors at this time do not want to understand technology and the complications it poses for anyone.
This major problem is compounded by a trend that has accelerated since the 1980s for prosecutors to abandon the principle that there cannot be a crime without criminal intent.
Prosecutors who judge cases individually, who enforce the spirit of the law, who have a higher notion of the public good than statistics, and who are accountable for their decisions will not process defendants like cows going to slaughter.
In fact, I do not think it is too much exaggeration to claim that we no longer have the rule of law, we have a tyranny of the executive, which chooses to selectively enforce laws at its own discretion, on its own time agenda, and using technology to prove others violated old laws that are not based on criminal intent.
Moreover, if anyone is not be fond of you, with the laws on the books today, it is impossible to even drive around the block without conflicting with some law or another, thereby making Richelieu's dictum reality. “If one would give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest man, I would find something in them to have him hanged." - Cardinal and Duc de Richelieu
Therefore, although our challenges may be new, we can meet them with new fairness towards understanding not all crimes on the books are today crimes. The instruments with which we meet them may be new too.
The values upon which our success depends on integrity, hard work, valor, justness, forbearance, inquisitiveness, faithfulness and patriotism, are old. These things are not just true but abound with truthfulness of knowing not all personal flaws are crimes.
They have been the quiet force of progress throughout our Pennsylvania history.
Tom Corbett and the entire OAG Staff have a true opportunity to change and adapt the laws that need to be changed into new guidelines of new millennium.
Tom Corbett & OAG Staff can once again makes Pennsylvania the Keystone, Heartland, and the Land That Changed the World Again just like in 1700's, 1800's and 1900's.
"Signor Ferrari said...We "root" for nothing. We merely present the facts (sorry if they bore you) in order to demonstrate the questionable nature of Corbett's politicized investigation. If Corbett were above board, DeWeese would have been charged a year ago with everyone else. If he gets charged now, it's simply so Corbett can save face. (The same applies to any Republicans who are charged). Our theory is that Corbett did not expect even to be pretending to investigate Bonusgate at this late date. The case was to have served its purpose and he'd be riding high on his BIG investigation at this point. But the best-laid schemes o' mice and gubernatorial candidates .....October 2, 2009 8:57 AM
What you are calling unfair on the charges that happen to you, is deceitful when you are unfair to others such as Eachus, DeWeese, Stetler, McCall, and other Lawmakers and Staffers.
Once again, you advocate the facts show DeWeese should be indicted but only based on your own flawed opinions, selfish raging rumors, and being upset as you brood on DeWeese investigating the HDCC to learn what happen in totality.
The OAG was going to do this job anyway, but DeWeese order it to find the underlying cause of what LaGrotta, Manzo, Foreman, and Lavelle pled Guilty for and the Webbs, Sidella, and Borlinghaus, along with many staffer revealed.
There is no way, with all informants that started with LaGrotta staffers turning LaGrotta in, Manzo admitting in public what he did and hid, and Foreman and Lavelle knowing the best way to go now is tell the entire truth, not blame anyone for their own misdeeds.
DeWeese did the right thing and rejected any cover up you wanted to happen, and so you are upset about it.
"Anonymous said...If I were a betting man - and I am - I'd bet DeWeese is toast. Even before the failure to turn over info, DeWeese would have had an obligation to be truthful ad cooperative. My guess is that AG determined he had failed to comply with the terms of immunity, if he had immunity, before Winkelman ever found those documents. October 2, 2009 9:48 AM"
BETS are not evidence and breaking the law if not place in the right casinos these days in Pennsylvania, so are you going to turn yourself in for the admission you are a BETTING MAN.
GUESSES are even more unreliable and it remains to be seen who was running a secret CTS Computer Program changed for campaigns without DeWeese or Stetlers Knowledge and most other lawmakers.
This is the Fourth Article put up on CasablancaPA on Bill DeWeese but claiming they are not advocating Bill DeWeese Indictment, just his conviction on CasablancaPa based solely on created arguments made by, of and for CasablancaPA.
Yet, CasablancaPA plead, cry out and project they are all are innocent, but Bill DeWeese!
It is called the Harrisburg Two-Step, but they are really mad Bill DeWeese does not dance!
Signor Ferrari said......And we have indeed offered more than one motive for Corbett to spare DeWeese. For one thing, DeWeese paid $1.3 million in taxpayer funds to Republican former state Inspector General and Corbett campaign contributor Bill Chadwick. As we have said before, certainly the ability to broker such a deal was among Chadwick's bag of costly tricks. For another, an immunity deal would have been one of the only ways to break the legal logjam that otherwise would have prevented Corbett from getting his hands on any of the caucus' e-mails and seriously thwarted his political schemes. October 2, 2009 5:05 PM"
I must take issue on the description and attacks on Bill Chadwick and Bill DeWeese.
CasablancaPa is setting up a set of circumstances where the conclusion is obvious.
It lets them think they came up with the idea themselves. They will think they are smart that they figured it out.
Who cares how you persuade them, the fact they can be persuaded is factually correct, and it is possible.
Do not treat prosecutors as kids. Admire their aptitude. Appreciate that there is a way to plead your case.
Sometimes the nastiest approach is to get in their face and point a finger. These kinds of actions will not persuade anyone at anytime, but after a while does cause deep reflections of the consequences of everyone’s actions.
This is true in the pursuit of justice and the defense of innocence
Bill Chadwick was hired to used his skills as an Inspector General and Former Prosecutor to uncover what happen due to forged signatures, secret leases, staffing fabrications, hidden computer campaign operations, and this was not for Bill DeWeese but the entire HDC.
Bill Chadwick did his job in the most forthright, professional, and outright competent manner, and earned less than he deserved.
Chadwick also wrote up new reforms that have come online to protect and promote new ways for the HDC, HDCC and entire Legislature to follow.
Bill Chadwick did his job, he should not be maligned here based on the very rumors, and innuendos others bring here to cloud charges, complicate the truth, and defend hidden questionable intentional misdeeds.
To the courageously anonymous poster who said I "hate" Tom Corbett: that is untrue. I don't think I hate anyone and I have no personal animus toward Tom Corbett. He has done nothing personally to me.And I note that you, courageously anonymous poster, have not contradicted any factual statement or even my conclusions and opinions.
What I know, like Signor Ferrari, is what I read in the newspapers and the Veon Brief documents and other documents that are public. Additionally, I am aware of the conventional and very prevalent wisdom that some Republicans did what Veon and others have been accused of doing. It defies belief that Republicans did not do what Democrats were doing and that there was, as I have been told, a "mutually assured agreement" that if Rs attacked Ds, Ds would go public and visa versa. This arrangement worked well for the incumbent protection. As I pointed out several times, the curious thing is that the dog did not bark last night, that is, the Republicans, even Corbett, have not made Democratic corruption a central, high profile issue. Even Corbett barely discusses what should be his marquee accomplishment: prosecuting Harrisburg corruption.
As to those Republicans and to those Democrats pointed to, the public evidence is very strong that Perzel and Jubelirer Brightbill Long Crompton etc network are as guilty as Veon.
It is very difficult to believe that Bill DeWeese did not know what is going on. Usually, prosecutors indict the "little fish" to have them give testimony, in return for lesser penalty, to get the "big fish". AG Corbett has not indicted a single incumbent in Bonusgate (LaGrotta and Habay were separate violations). Very unusual prosecution, it seems to me and it has been going on for more than two and half years..."ongoing investigation" indeed. We should all live so long to see the end of this.
This is not a court of law and the conclusions that one draws from the public evidence need not be beyond a reasonable doubt and subject to confronting accusers ( and Perzel Jubelirer have not publicly denied anything ), or cross examination or opportunity to be heard. Those are legal and courtroom criteria.
We, the people, will have to vote and that standard is much different. Using that standard, it is my opinion that Tom Corbett is a threat to the Rule of Law and that his endorsement, and worse, his nomination for Governor will be a disaster for the Republican party and should he be elected a disaster for Pennsylvania.
A partisan prosecutor is a threat to us all. Suppose the AG were as partisan as Democrat as AG Corbett and staff are partisan Republicans, then what?
It does not appear that anyone has even challenged the factual statements by Signor Ferrari or the facts on any Original Post.
Casablancapa does a real service to Pennsylvania voters, like me, who are concerned but are not inside Harrisburg. The data, the documents, the aggregation of news stories are all useful to educate the electorate. The citizen journalists are to be complimented.
bobguzzardi said...
I was speaking with a Lower Merion committee person who is very active in Lower Merion politics. Much more Establishment and main stream than I. Her reaction to Tom Corbett that he was uncomfortable speaking about economic issues because, it was evident, he did not know much about budgets and economics and that she was uncomfortable listening to him. I have heard Tom Corbett speaking and he is boring and makes listeners uncomfortable. Voters will, I think, have the same reaction. He does not come across as someone who knows what he is doing. Further she said, unless Corbett indicts a high level Republican, his candidacy for governor is probably finished. I take her opinion as indicative of what the Montgomery County establishment is thinking and how a voter will react to Tom Corbett who is not, to understate it, a dynamic speaker. Hoeffel v. Corbett is not a debate that any Republican will be comfortable watching. I note that the Brad Bumsted article where AG Corbett promised dramatic indictments is more than six months old. The "ongoing investigation" is now two and half years old and not a single conviction and not one Republican. It is an open secret among everyone in Harrisburg that Republicans were doing what Veon DeWeese Eachus Stetler were doing.
Is there a double standard? It seems so. October 3, 2009 2:41 PM"
Lets be fair Bob, why would Lower Merion want a Governor from Pittsburgh, instead of one from the Philadelphia area?
If there is a double standard, you seem to reflect it!
Bob, you need to post facts for them to be refuted. What you write is opinion, speculation, and conjecture. A number of conclusions can be drawn from the reports out there, you have chosen your read and your bias grows.
You say you don't hate Corbett, but your three posts a day speak volumes. You've got a bit of an obssession there. You and signor veon should get togther for coffee sometime.
Balls
"Anonymous said...In Colloquial English “Who Polices The Police? October 4, 2009 7:42 AM"
This is where I do stand with all the Defendants regardless of the charges, because all of their emails, personal conversations, and testimony of campaigning can be reviewed for charges.
Yet, if Defense Lawyers want to review Police actions, emails, and similar actions, it is protected from review or a National Security.
The big problem is there is a mixture of campaigning and constituent services and some personal mistakes among staff and lawmakers.
I advocate a fair review, repayment of state funds where agreed, but the need for prosecutions is too broad for all and will result in more mistakes of justice, not less.
"bobguzzardi said......
It is very difficult to believe that Bill DeWeese did not know what is going on." October 4, 2009 9:03 AM"
Once you found out your signature was forged and it was proven by Independent Experts.
Once you see HDC CTS Employee revelations the computers were changed to campaigning but kept from most HDC Members and employees and only revealed after DeWeese hired a new chief of staff.
Once you read how Cigar Shop Leases were signed in secret and kept from other staff and lawmakers.
Once you read Guilty Pleas because a girl on put on the payroll in secret and a DeWeese staffer found out about it months later.
Quite frankly, your opinions, conclusions, and so-called facts do not hold water based on your beliefs.
DeWeese ordered a HDC and HDCC Investigation to find out what happen with just a few of thee events above.
DeWeese admitted his own mistakes and fired those that kept things from him and they admitted they let DeWeese down.
DeWeese ordered all employees to cooperate to save their own selves, clean up the HDC and HDCC, and turned over what evidence that shows DeWeese made mistakes too.
These are factual actions of a thoughtful leader and they counter you own beliefs, opinions, base on all you read.
"bobguzzardi said...Casablancapa does a real service to Pennsylvania voters, like me, who are concerned but are not inside Harrisburg. The data, the documents, the aggregation of news stories are all useful to educate the electorate. The citizen journalists are to be complimented.
October 4, 2009 9:03 AM"
It is not a service to cloud and cause confusion about others not charged to date and ignores facts submitted within their own documents.
I agree with you that Republicans and Democrats were doing very similar things on campaigning and I agree many thought it was part of the job.
I do fault Corbett & the OAG for not coming up with a way to have the taxpayers repaid rather than use prosecution as a hammer for a few.
Yet, there are some revelations where the charges go far beyond what all the caucuses did versus what the Defendants claim they did.
It is shown by the Manzo, Foreman and Lavelle Guilty Pleas, State Immunity Witnesses, and separate independent documents.
This separates fiction written on CasablancaPA by CasablancaPA, as they ignore the facts they cannot speak on from advice from counsel.
Sorry Bob, but I respectfully disagree with you, and still believe the OAG should consider a better way to resolve these entire episodes of law weighing for all.
Look at the Bonusgate investigation and all these exchanges from the eyes of The Forgotten Taxpayer.
Let us for a moment pretend that Tom Corbett has done the best job anyone could do and let us pretend Bill DeWeese was as clueless as he says he was and fooled by his own staffers and let us pretend that lines between partisan political campaigning and constituent service were blurred and, inadvertently, from time to time, lines were crossed unintentionally.
Let us pretend all that, and we all admit that millions have been spent for the defense of three caucuses and I have to think millions spent in the prosecution and let us not forget the millions in phony bonuses and that this full time legislature has more staffers and costs more than all but one or two legislatures in the country, and looking at all this through the eyes of The Forgotten Taxpayer, tell me what has The Forgotten Taxpayer gotten from Bonusgate? It appears to me, nothing, and may I add that the Budget has still not been passed while costing taxpayers half million in per diems just for July August.
What has The Forgotten Taxpayer gotten for his and her money? Do you see my point? You were elected to protect us and you have let us down.
"bobguzzardi said...What has The Forgotten Taxpayer gotten for his and her money? Do you see my point? You were elected to protect us and you have let us down. October 4, 2009 7:33 PM"
I have advocated the best way to conduct this entire investigation of the entire legislature at least on Bonusgate is the return of all bonuses on a reasonable withholding from current paycheck.
As well as a reasonable methods for those that left employment on an easy payment schedule.
If the OAG did that, the forgotten taxpayer is reimbursed in an easy way at far lower cost of continued investigations and trials. Indeed, with proper consultation the OAG would actually come out looking very good instead of the suspicious motives that are developing as we speak.
Holding Legislative Hearing as well to have input on how sloppy practices camouflaged the lines between campaigns and citizen service would be a good outcome. From those hearings, New Reforms that take into account New Technology and definitive lines between constituent’s service and campaigning, as well as fundraising, and of course, ethical procedures with alternative new criminal regulations would be a far better use of legislative and OAG time right now.
Now some Defendants may not all escape all aspects of these Hearings, OAG past and current investigations, but we can resolve the differences in a far more use of reason of both logical and legal, ways to protect the forgotten taxpayers.
The Age Of Fumo is over, it is time to find out what happen, reimburse taxpayers all bonuses, and deal fairly with Defendants being given a chance to show how they never intended to break laws.
The Forgotten Taxpayer will remember come what in May and in November!
My Response In Title Caps:
"bobguzzardi said......Let us for a moment pretend that Tom Corbett has done the best job anyone could do .....October 4, 2009 7:33 PM
"
The OAG Is Doing The Job, But The Problem May Not Be With The OAG, But The Broad Scope Of The Entire Investigation And What Some Think Were Illegal Acts On A Grand Scale And Others See As Ethical Violations On A Grander Scale, And Of Course Years Of Sloppy Practices That Many Took For Granted As Legal But Now Indictable And That Is Quite Unfair.
Therefore, The OAG Should Come With An Innovative Way To Resolve Separate All The Information It Is Collecting And Decide Based On Reason And Fairness What Needs Further Investigations And What Current Charges Continue Or Are Removed.
THIS IS IN THE INTEREST OF ALL CITIZENS AND TAXPAYERS TOO AND REMOVES ALL TAINT OF BIAS POLITICAL AMBITIOUS ALLEGATIONs.
"bobguzzardi said......and let us pretend Bill DeWeese was as clueless as he says he was and fooled by his own staffers. October 4, 2009 7:33 PM"
In All Fairness, DeWeese Admitted In Public With Regret Some Mistakes Did Happen And He Hold Himself Accountable For Those Mistakes In Two Elections And Put In Reforms That Exist Today.
DeWeese Dealt With Finding What Happen By Hiring A Professional Whose Mission Was To Determine What Happen After Some Things Were Kept From DeWeese. DeWeese Order Full Cooperation Not A Cover Up. Once DeWeese Found Out, It Pained Him To Take Action As Reported In The Papers, But He Did It The Right Way For The Right Reasons.
Such Information Can Be Seen In The Veon Motion Papers Exhibits That Proved DeWeese Was Cut Out Of The Loop And Misled By A Few Staffers.
DeWeese From All I Read, Stood Up For The HDC, Refused To Become A Victim Himself, Did The Right Thing, Admitted Mistakes, And It Is Others That Called DeWeese Clueless. DeWeese As Corbett Was Disappointed What His Inspector General Found Out And He Changed It With New Reforms.
THE OAG SHOULD RECOGNIZE THIS KIND OF LEADERSHIP THAT NO OTHER CAUCUS LEADER TOOK SINCE THESE INVESTIGATIONS BEGAN 3 YEARS AGO.
"bobguzzardi said...... and let us pretend that lines between partisan political campaigning and constituent service were blurred and, inadvertently, from time to time, lines were crossed unintentionally. October 4, 2009 7:33 PM
"
In Fumo Case, They Were Not; It Has Been Proven He Misused Taxpayers, State Employees, And State And Non-Profit Resources For His Own Poltical Gain, Private Benefit, And As A Weapon Against Political Enemies Plus Sent State Employee Out To Work On Other Democratic Campaigns In New Jersey, Maryland, And Florida. FUMO IS IN JAIL!
In My Opinion, Many Of The Defendants And Even Some That Pleaded Guilty Were Not Of The Same Yoke As Fumo. Even Though Some Of The Same Kinds Of Practices Were Developing Each Year. However, In My Opinion After All I Read I Believe Most Of The Defendants Had No Criminal Intent To Violate The Laws And Were Just Doing Jobs That Got Sloppy.
This Is Why, People Like “Bob Guzzardi” Have My Respect And I Hope Joins Me In The Same Quest To Make Sure The Taxpayers Are Reimbursed, Costs Stop On A Grand Level, And Fairness Is Shown To Current And Future Defendants And Those With Guilty Pleas.
"bobguzzardi said...Let us pretend all that, and we all admit that millions have been spent for the defense of three caucuses and I have to think millions spent in the prosecution and let us not forget the millions in phony bonuses and that this full time legislature has more staffers and costs more than all but one or two legislatures in the country, and looking at all this through the eyes of The Forgotten Taxpayer, tell me what has The Forgotten Taxpayer gotten from Bonusgate? It appears to me, nothing, and may I add that the Budget has still not been passed while costing taxpayers half million in per diems just for July August. October 4, 2009 7:33 PM"
Yep, the OAG is spending millions and under attack for taking too long as well as media beliefs developing this is more political than judicial. When the OAG can act in innovative ways to work towards taxpayers reimbursements fairly.
Yep, the defendants are all near bankruptcy at this time for it taking so long and may be victims of a broad unbalanced investigation that is too large for any organization even the OAG.
Yep, the legislature and OAG could resolve much of these allegations by holding hearings, bring all bonus employees before them, and ask them to return the bonuses out of respect for the treasury taxpayers.
Best of all, the taxpayers, and citizens can decide the fate of al lawmakers in May’s Primary and November’s General Election.
Reason, Logic, Restitution, Fairness, And Election Fates!
Proof Of Computer CTS Changed From Constituents Info To Campaign Purposes And Hidden From DeWeese & DeWeese New Chief Of Staff Sandy Williams And Other Lawmakers:
"THE VEON PAPERS
DAN REESE
GRAND JURY TESTIMONY
5/15/2008 page 30
REESE IS A CURRENT DEMOCRATIC HOUSE CAUCUS EMPLOYEE.
In 2007, Reese was ordered by Todd Eachus and Michele Borlinghaus to alter the House Democratic Caucus' "Constituent Tracking System" for POLITICAL PURPOSES.
*ATTACHED IS REESE'S GRAND JURY TESTIMONY RECOUNTING HOW EACHUS AND BORLINGHAUS ASKED HIM TO CHANGE THE CTS SYSTEM FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES?
(PLEASE NOTE THIS IS AFTER STETLER LEFT SO STETLER NEVER DID THIS ONLY EACHUS ORDERED IT ALONE)
...Page 30...
Q. This is all about getting the guy re-elected, right?
A. Yes.
Q. This is Representative Eachus calling you down to his office and saying, my man, let's get working on this protection stuff, right?
A. Yes.
Q. Tell us more about this conversation.
A. That was pretty much it. We went back, got to work on it right away. We set it up.
It started working. We actually had it HIDDEN from general caucus use. Anybody that has CTS could not access this part of the system unless we gave them the direct link to it. In speaking with Michele I think a couple people used it. I don't know exactly who.
Then in the last couple months after everybody got fired (AFTER DEWEESE FOUND OUT) and Sandy Williams got brought on board, (HIRED BY DEWEESE TO REPLACE MANZO) I kind of brought that to her attention, that we had this.
We were getting ready to roll out a new upgraded CTS system which we had reprogrammed and upgraded it a little bit. I mention this to her. I was a little concerned about it. Do we really want to include this? And later, no. It's kind of been scrapped since then.
...........Page 31.....
Q. Did he (EACHUS)say he wanted that hidden?
A. If he did, I don't remember.
Q. How do you go about hiding it? I think you said this but it's only accessible if you tell somebody about it and then give them codes to find it?
A. No, In our CTS system, there is your navigation menu. We just didn't include it as part of the navigation menu. The link to the web page that this stuff was on we would give to the person and they would access it directly.
.....PAGE 35.....
Q. I want you to assume the following facts. Eachus has initiated this incumbent protection practice, correct?
A. Yes.
Q. Although you're on the technical side of things, you have become somewhat attuned to the political goings on, correct?
A. Yes.
.....EACHUS IS ANGLING FOR A LEADERSHIP POSITION......THIS PROGRAM THAT YOU DEVELOP FOR HIM AND HID SO THAT HE WOULD HAVE TO GIVE ACCESS TO IT, WOULD THAT HELP HIM IN HELPING OTHER MEMBERS GAIN RE-ELECTION?
A: I WOULD THINK SO, YES!
September 14, 2009 10:44 PM"
The jails are full of people who blame someone else for their incarceration: The prosecutor, the police, the person(s) who testified against them, the person(s) who turned them in.
I submit that what CasablancaPA is doing falls right in line with that mentality.
Doing a blog takes a lot of time and effort. People should ask themselves who would have such a great interest in discrediting Tom Corbett and his Bonusgate investigation?
CasablancaPA has opinion and conjecture -- and that's all it has. So here is my opinion and conjecture, too: The purpose of this blog is to plant seeds of doubt in the potential jury pool, for when the Bonusgate defendants go to trail.
"Anonymous said...
The jails are full of people who blame someone else for their incarceration: The prosecutor, the police, the person(s) who testified against them, the person(s) who turned them in.
I submit that what CasablancaPA is doing falls right in line with that mentality.
Doing a blog takes a lot of time and effort. People should ask themselves who would have such a great interest in discrediting Tom Corbett and his Bonusgate investigation?
CasablancaPA has opinion and conjecture -- and that's all it has. So here is my opinion and conjecture, too: The purpose of this blog is to plant seeds of doubt in the potential jury pool, for when the Bonusgate defendants go to trail. October 5, 2009 8:05 AM"
If I was indicted I would do the same thing and it is not illegal.
The Dauphin County Jurors are a tough bunch of people coming from a pool of Jurors East of Pittsburgh, and West of Philadelphia, meaning Alabama is in between.
OAG can find a better way too!
Where there are charges there are cover ups!
"Anonymous said...I've said it before, and I'll say it again: the only thing for certain in this whole affair is that these posts will cease in or around February 2010...ironic that Signor et al won't even be able to vote against Corbett, or anyone else for that matter, ever again. October 2, 2009 11:51 AM"
There are Settlements, Plead Deals, Trials, and Appeals and more Appeals, then Pardons.
It will go on beyond next year, trust me, they have a right to speak out and defend.
If you read Hamlet, you come to know Hamlet is the smartest in the in play being beaten down in the unfair world.
Hamlets remain quietly confident, engaging in his temperament, carefully selective in his words, and out witting those attempting to destroy him.
In the end, Hamlet stands up to an unfair world even in defeat by idiots, wrong doers, and chaotic characters seeking to end Hamlets legacy.
However, only the scholar and solider remains to tell his story, so Hamlet actually wins.
"Anonymous said...We think highly of ourselves, don't we Mike? Funny how you repeatedly forget about your co-defendants, especially those that pled guilty. October 2, 2009 9:21 AM"
Mike Veon should be thought of highly he was one of most effective Lawmakers ever to be elected. I say so in all complete honesty and his record speaks for itself.
Mike will handle the charges and address others that now testify against him.
Mike has been replaced by a guy that does not answer his phones, too afraid to lead on anything, and quietly sits in his office thanking good fortune for Perzel putting into $150,000 into his campaign.
When or if Perzel is indicted, we will really see how some others are going to squirm.
"Q. Did he (EACHUS)say he wanted that hidden?
A. If he did, I don't remember.
October 5, 2009 7:09 AM"
You just posted why Todd Eachus is free and clear and will not be indicted!
The Officers that do the Kings Duty are kept within any Leaders mouths like an Ape that will swallow them when he chooses.
Amusing, in the company of witnesses, Manzo express regret to Bill DeWeese when he was fired for concealing several events, misdeeds and letting his boss down.
In the presence of witnesses, Manzo and Brubaker told investigators Bill was not involved, as well to Investigators from the AG Office.
Does anyone doubt the if the Republican Attorney General had enough evidence to indict the Democratic House Majority Leader before the election, he certainly would have?
There is no question that these people of self-effacing using state funds to fill their households are very, very angry at Bill for turning over the evidence that proved they were violating the laws behind their bosses back.
Bill DeWeese was man enough to hire an Attorney in Bill Chadwick, someone that worked for Governor Casey and Governor Ridge, to investigate his own Office as soon as he learned of criminal activity.
Bill DeWeese then handed that evidence over to the AG Office because he refused a cover up. Now that is a mark of an honest political leader that refuses to cover up, even if it means his own staff.
Certainly, Bill DeWeese admits he made mistakes in putting trust in some people he depended upon to be honest, but Bill DeWeese never did anything of a criminal in nature with criminal intent.
Give me break; we attack Politicians for not being honest than when they are and refuse to cover up anything, we attack them again?
Lets be fair, I read the Veon Filings and Grand Jury Findings, it is clear Bill DeWeese was kept out of the loop by Veon's and Eachus's hiring’s, directions of HDCC Chairs and employees. DeWeese investigators found out about Manzo's inner workings with Veon.
What needs to be looked at now is how Todd Eachus is still working with Mike Veon as Majority Leader and met with Manzo after his indictment. Attorney Foreman was working for Eachus not Veon at the time of the Indictments.
What I find funny, of all the money raised by the HDCC DeWeese never got one dime, he passed it out to all the other Lawmakers.
I agree, with most of you. DeWeese has been more honest and put in more Reforms than any other Lawmaker.
From what I read, Bill DeWeese as soon as he learned of his forged signature, secret accounts set up outside knowledge, changes in CIT System, and DeWeese hired a Former Inspector General Lawyer with super credentials to go through his office.
Upon that search, he fired those responsible and then put Reforms in so, it never happens again and that was over 20 months ago. DeWeese refused any cover up, took responsibility, and corrected what others did without his knowledge.
This is why the people of Greene, Fayette, and Washington Counties Re-elected him with more than twice as many votes than in 2005.
In reality, all Democrats next year including DeWeese will be fighting for Re-Election.
The people will decide as it should be not prosecutors.
This still leaves the final decision in the hands of the commonwealth citizens when they vote in November for all candidates.
To clarify: there's not a single item in the Veon filing or anywhere in evidence that shows anyone tried to hide anything from DeWeese, or that any "experts" determined DeWeese's signature was "forged." Surely if investigators had determined DeWeese's signature was "forged," someone would have been charged.
By the way, Anonymous 9:48, you might have waited a few minutes until we had a chance to post your 9:42 and 9:38 comments before submitting another comment agreeing with yourself. Hilarious!
DeWeese has acknowledged some mistakes, and on no account said, he was flawless.
The independent investigation had to be turned over by law to the OAG and the truth kept most of the honest legislators free even over some minor violations.
It was DeWeese that set up this foremost transformation of reforms for the caucuses that were applied to prevent all future bonus gate, abuse of state property, and ethical values from occurring again.
These reforms were created by William Chadwick, a Casey/Ridges Former Inspector General Appointee that investigated the Caucus and interviewed over 200 people.
It was DeWeese that urged all to cooperate with the AG Office.
I call that standing up, doing what is right, and refusing a cover up.
This is what good leaders do when they find they and other lawmakers have become victims of a shadow people with blind ambitions.
As a final point, Bill DeWeese became a victim of his own honesty when he discovered employees and some lawmakers betraying him when the investigation began.
"Signor Ferrari said...
To clarify: there's not a single item in the Veon filing or anywhere in evidence that shows anyone tried to hide anything from DeWeese, or that any "experts" determined DeWeese's signature was "forged." Surely if investigators had determined DeWeese's signature was "forged," someone would have been charged....October 10, 2009 10:12 AM"
OH REALLY!!!, VEON LAWYERS POSTED DAN RESSE COMMENTS ABOUT A HIDDEN CTS SYSTEM DID HE NOT?
GO AHEAD MAKE MY DAY AND SHOW ME HOW YOUR HALF LIES HAVE COTT UP TO YOU ONCE AGAIN?
Hilarious!
"Signor Ferrari said...
To clarify: there's not a single item in the Veon filing or anywhere in evidence that shows anyone tried to hide anything from DeWeese, or that any "experts" determined DeWeese's signature was "forged." Surely if investigators had determined DeWeese's signature was "forged," someone would have been charged.
October 10, 2009 10:12 AM"
OH REALLY,
Here is NEWSPAER CLIPPING that you guys love to put up and exposes your own HALF-LIES once again.
ARTICLE"
12 face charges in bonus scandal
Millions in public funds used for political gain, probe finds
Friday, July 11, 2008
By Dennis B. Roddy and Tracie Mauriello, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
"""While Mr. DeWeese's signature appeared on those contracts, grand jurors said testimony showed Mr. DeWeese's signature was forged by a secretary at Mr. Manzo's direction."""
Or did I rush my posts too fast again to proved you lied above?????
Anonymous 9:38 -- Get your facts straight. Foreman was working for McCall, not Eachus. So was PJ LaValle. PJ and Adam Wagonseller were specifically hired by McCall at the end of 2006 beginning of 2008 to do McCall's fundraising on state time. Based on my reading of the Veon filings, McCall has just as much to worry about as Eachus.
"Signor Ferrari said...
To clarify: there's not a single item in the Veon filing or anywhere in evidence that shows anyone tried to hide anything from DeWeese, or that any "experts" determined DeWeese's signature was "forged." Surely if investigators had determined DeWeese's signature was "forged," someone would have been charged....
October 10, 2009 10:12 AM"
"""OH REALLY, NO EVIDENCE ANYWHERE THAT SHOWS ANYONE TRIED TO HIDE ANYTHING FROM DEWEESE"""
Eric Buxton, a former employee of the Caucus Information Technology Office, testified under a grant of immunity and said he developed a system to allow mass e-mail communications to distribute the caucus' message. He told the grand jury that he worked the arrangement with Mr. Manzo, Mr. Keefer and Mr. Veon.
"""The stated purpose of the office was to relay legislative initiatives and achievements of the Caucus to the people of Pennsylvania by means of Web sites and e-mails. However, Buxton testified that it was very clear from the beginning that he, Veon, Manzo and Keefer intended to use this operation for campaign purposes," the grand jury said.
The caucus later spent $1.2 million of state funds to purchase e-mail addresses for the project."""
Signor Ferrari, Now tell us how your nobel statement above is so true, or better yet, tell us why you hid things, or did your Attorneys advise you to remain silent?
"Anonymous said...Anonymous 9:38 -- Get your facts straight. Foreman was working for McCall, not Eachus. So was PJ LaValle. PJ and Adam Wagonseller were specifically hired by McCall at the end of 2006 beginning of 2008 to do McCall's fundraising on state time. Based on my reading of the Veon filings, McCall has just as much to worry about as Eachus. October 10, 2009 10:40 AM"
I stand corrected thank you. I have also corrected Signor Ferrari comments with links to PPG.
In my opinion, Foreman and Lavelle plead to fast and are very good people caught in a maze as many Defendants.
Yet, they and Manzo are the sources being used against Team Casa.
Yet, Team Casa has been very inaccurate on their own comments about McCall, Eachus, and DeWeese.
"Signor Ferrari said...
To clarify: there's not a single item in the Veon filing or anywhere in evidence that shows anyone tried to hide anything from DeWeese, or that any "experts" determined DeWeese's signature was "forged." Surely if investigators had determined DeWeese's signature was "forged," someone would have been charged....October 10, 2009 10:12 AM"
OH REALLY, DID BRETT COTT EVER GO TO THE BLOOM CIGAR SHOP? DID HE KNOW ANYTHING OR DID HE KEEP MANZO SECRET A SECRET? WS THE BLOOM CIGAR SHOP LEASE SIGNED IN SECRET OR DID MCCALL, EACHUS AND DEWEESE AND MRS MANZO KNOW?
ARTICLE:
Grand jury: Office over South Side cigar shop was BIG waste of time
By Mike Cronin
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Friday, July 11, 2008
It's unclear why a nonprofit Beaver County development agency rented an office above an iconic South Side cigar store.
But a state grand jury yesterday offered a clue into the motivations behind the Beaver Initiative for Growth's rental of space above the humidor of the Bloom Cigar Store on South 12th Street.
According to a presentment, staff members for former House Majority Whip Michael Veon -- a founder of BIG -- and top legislative aide Michael Manzo rented the space to create a phony job for Angela Bertugli, then 21, a former legislative intern who was attending graduate school.
Bertugli's "office" was "dingy" and "very dirty" and "used as a cigar-smoking spot by individuals who came up from the cigar store," the presentment said.
She earned $21,091 in 2005, according to the presentment, as a part-time party employee who was scheduled to work three days a week. But Bertugli "had nothing to do 70 percent of the time," the presentment said. "She therefore spent 70 percent of the time for which she was being paid by the taxpayers doing her schoolwork, or nothing at all."
The grand jury alleges Manzo, chief of staff to House Majority Leader Bill DeWeese, had a romantic relationship with Bertugli from 2004-07.
The grand jury recommended prosecution of Veon and Manzo on charges they awarded millions in bonuses to legislative staffers for political work. They also are charged with awarding no-show jobs to some aides.
Bloom owner Marc Adams acknowledged renting the office space to BIG. He said he has known Veon for years.
"I'm shocked," Adams said after learning of the charges against Veon.
Adams -- who is not accused of any wrongdoing -- declined to answer further questions about Veon. Nor would he comment on Bertugli "or anything like that."
Among the rows of pictures that act as wallpaper in the Bloom humidor, two are of Veon. He is smoking a cigar with an unidentified man.
Bras dangle by the dozens from the ceiling. Women who donate their bras receive a cigar in return, Adams said.
Images of celebrities with stogies also hang throughout the lounge, including Al Pacino, Robert De Niro and Terry Bradshaw with the late Art Rooney Sr.
"It's classy; it's a landmark for the city of Pittsburgh," said Jon Redman, 24, a cigar-business consultant who lives in Mt. Washington. "It's like a watering hole for the blue-collar (worker). It's a kind of museum for the spirit of Pittsburgh."
LINK:
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/tribpm/s_577159.html
"grand jurors said testimony showed Mr. DeWeese's signature was forged by a secretary at Mr. Manzo's direction."
Where is that grand jury testimony, and why was that secretary not charged?
A presentment is the prosecutor's interpretation of evidence; it is not evidence in itself.
"VEON LAWYERS POSTED DAN RESSE COMMENTS ABOUT A HIDDEN CTS SYSTEM DID HE NOT?"
Can you please direct us to the comment which reveals someone deliberately trying to hide something from DeWeese?
"He told the grand jury that he worked the arrangement with Mr. Manzo, Mr. Keefer and Mr. Veon."
Ridiculous. E-mails in evidence prove that DeWeese himself directed Buxton to do political work, even though Buxton was paid with state funds. Remember how Corbett pointed out in the presentment that DeWeese used his campaign e-mail address to conduct this apparently illegal activity?
Hey, Anonymous 11:00am. Here is page 161 from Veon's July filing. Sworn testimony from Bertugli about what she did and whe told her to do it while she worked at the cigar shop office --
Q: Did you understand then at that point that that was purely campaign/political work which you shouldn't be doing on the taxpayer dime?
A: Yes.
Q: Obviously, you did it anyway?
A: Yes.
Q: You were directed by whom to go out and do this?
A: Mr. Sidella.
Q: You would take directions from Mr. Sidella why?
A: Because he worked very closely with Mr. Manzo.
Q: He also worked very closely for his immedidate boss who would be?
A: Mr. DeWeese.
So, Sidella kept secrets from DeWeese, too? And if DeWeese is cutting loose anyone who lied to him, then why has his campaign continued to pay Sidella and his company, the WS Group, a monthly retainer all the way up to December 2008? Apparently, 2009 campaign reports aren't filed yet.
Since you clearly work and speak for DeWeese, you can answer this question...When is DeWeese going to cut the Sidella and the WS Group loose?
DeWeese is a liar. Manzo didn't keep anything from him. Sidella didn't keep anything from him. DeWeese was an enthusiastic user of his staff for campaign purposes. Testimony and emails back that up.
"Signor Ferrari said...
To clarify: there's not a single item in the Veon filing or anywhere in evidence that shows anyone tried to hide anything from DeWeese,...October 10, 2009 10:12 AM"
ANOTHER RESPONSE:
(PLEASE NOTE THIS IS AFTER STETLER LEFT SO STETLER NEVER DID THIS ONLY EACHUS ORDERED IT ALONE)
...Page 30...
Q. This is all about getting the guy re-elected, right?
A. Yes.
Q. This is Representative Eachus calling you down to his office and saying, my man, let's get working on this protection stuff, right?
A. Yes.
Q. Tell us more about this conversation.
A. That was pretty much it. We went back, got to work on it right away. We set it up.
It started working. We actually had it HIDDEN from general caucus use. Anybody that has CTS could not access this part of the system unless we gave them the direct link to it. In speaking with Michele I think a couple people used it. I don't know exactly who.
Then in the last couple months after everybody got fired (AFTER DEWEESE FOUND OUT) and Sandy Williams got brought on board, (HIRED BY DEWEESE TO REPLACE MANZO) I kind of brought that to her attention, that we had this.
We were getting ready to roll out a new upgraded CTS system which we had reprogrammed and upgraded it a little bit. I mention this to her. I was a little concerned about it. Do we really want to include this? And later, no. It's kind of been scrapped since then.
...........Page 31.....
Q. Did he (EACHUS)say he wanted that hidden?
A. If he did, I don't remember.
Q. How do you go about hiding it? I think you said this but it's only accessible if you tell somebody about it and then give them codes to find it?
A. No, In our CTS system, there is your navigation menu. We just didn't include it as part of the navigation menu. The link to the web page that this stuff was on we would give to the person and they would access it directly.
.....PAGE 35.....
September 14, 2009 10:44 PM"
October 5, 2009 7:09 AM
SO, SIGNOR FERRARI DO YOU HAVING PROBLEM WITH THE WORD HIDDEN OR YOUR OWN INTERPRETATION OF IT???
YOUR CLARIFICATION IS AN OUTRIGHT PREVARICATION! IS IT NOT?
Obviously, there's nothing in that testimony that shows the system was hidden from DeWeese, just that it was hidden from general use. In fact, as you quote, "I think a couple people used it. I don't know exactly who." Possibly DeWeese. Certainly DeWeese staff.
Good effort, though. Keep trying.
"MY RESPONSES IN CAPS BELOW YOUR PREVARICATION STATEMENTS IN YOUR POST:"
Anonymous said...
Hey, Anonymous 11:00am. Here is page 161 from Veon's July filing. Sworn testimony from Bertugli about what she did and whe told her to do it while she worked at the cigar shop office --
RESPONSE:
"GOOD, I AM GLAD YOU POSTED IT THANK YOU!"
Q: Did you understand then at that point that that was purely campaign/political work which you shouldn't be doing on the taxpayer dime?
A: Yes.
Q: Obviously, you did it anyway?
A: Yes.
Q: You were directed by whom to go out and do this?
A: Mr. Sidella.
Q: You would take directions from Mr. Sidella why?
A: Because he worked very closely with Mr. Manzo.
Q: He also worked very closely for his immedidate boss who would be?
A: Mr. DeWeese.
RESPONSE:
"THANK YOU FOR POSTING THE ABOVE SNIPPET AND I MIGHT REMIND YOU THAT IN THE PRESENTMENTS THE PEOPLE THAT KNEW ABOUT THE CIGAR SHOP WHERE, VEON THE SECRET LEASE SIGNER THAT WORKED WITH MANZO THE ABUSER OF THE NICE WOMAN, BRETT COTT AND KEVIN SIDELLA."
NOWHERE IS DEWEESE NAME FOUND IN THE PRESENTMENTS OR VEON PAPERS THAT HE KNEW ABOUT THE CIGAR SHOP OPERATION. IN FACT, IT WAS A DEWEESE STAFFER THAT FOUND OUT ABOUT THE WOMAN AND REPORTED IT.
So, Sidella kept secrets from DeWeese, too?
RESPONSE:
SIDELLA UNLIKE COTT AND VEON IS COOPERATING WITH THE GRAND JURY AS INSTRUCTED BY DEWEESE!!!
And if DeWeese is cutting loose anyone who lied to him, then why has his campaign continued to pay Sidella and his company, the WS Group, a monthly retainer all the way up to December 2008?
RESPONSE:
HE CUT LOOSE THOSE THAT DID NOT COOPERATE WITH CHADWICK INVESTIGATION AND THOSE THAT ADMITTED IN PUBLIC THEY LIED TO DEWEESE AND LET HIM DOWN.
Apparently, 2009 campaign reports aren't filed yet.
RESPONSE:
WHY WAIT YOU BOTH KNOW THE TRUTH. SECRET LEASE THAT SOME VEON STAFFERS DID NOT KNOW ABOUT, OOPS IS THAT ANOTHER HIDDEN FACT KEPT FROM VEON'S OWN STAFFERS NOT JUST DEWEESE?
RESPONSE:
MANZO HAS STATED WHAT YOU TWO KNEW AND WHEN YOU KNEW IT, WEBB HAS SAID WHY HE FELT HE WAS BEING MISUSED AS A BOGUS STATE EMPLOYEE WORKING ON YOUR CAMPAIGNS UNDER COTT.
Since you clearly work and speak for DeWeese, you can answer this question...
RESPONSE:
UNLIKE YOU, I DO NOT ASSUME THINGS; I DO NOT WORK FOR DEWEESE.
When is DeWeese going to cut the Sidella and the WS Group loose?
RESPONSE:
SIDELLA IS COOPERATING WITH THE OAG ARE YOU?
DeWeese is a liar.
RESPONSE:
DEWEESE IS NOT A LIAR. I JUST COTT BOTH OF YOU LIES ABOUT HIDDEN THINGS KEPT FROM DEWEESE AND I USED NEWSPAPERS ARTICLES AND VEON MOTION FILING TO PROVE YOU LIED.
Manzo didn't keep anything from him.
RESPONSE:
WHY DID HE ADMIT HE DID IN PUBLIC BEFORE TWO WITNESSES? WHY DID HE HAVE A SECRETARY FORGE DEWEESE'S NAME? WHY DID MANZO KEEP HIS GIRLFRIEND FROM HIS WIFE? WHY IS HE TESTIFYING AGAINST YOU TWO?
Sidella didn't keep anything from him.
RESPONSE:
SO YOU ADMIT YOU WORKED WITH SIDELLA THAT HAS ADMITTED TO THE OAG WHAT HE DID, SO YOU DID WRONG TOO?
DeWeese was an enthusiastic user of his staff for campaign purposes.
RESPONSE:
NICE TRY, BUT HE ADMITTED MISTAKES BUT HE DID NOT DO WHAT YOU ALL DID AND HID.
Testimony and emails back that up.
RESPONSE:
THE MAJORITY OF EMAILS SURROUND ALL OF YOU IS IN FAR MORE NUMBERS WITH FAR MORE ADMISSIONS THAN ANY OTHER LAWMAKERS.
THE VEON FLINGS LISTED WHAT STAFFERS AND LAWMAKERS WERE IN CHARGE OF THE HDCC CAMPAIGNS AND IT WAS DEWEESE. VEON LAWYERS BY RELEASING THIS INFORMATION ACTUALLY EXONERATED DEWEESE.
YOU ARE JUST MAD DEWEESE ORDER AN INVESTIGATION AND REFUSED A COVER UP AND YOUR BLAME HIM FOR YOUR ARRESTS WHEN IT IS ACTUALLY LAGROTTA, MANZO, FOREMAN, AND LAVELLE AND WEBBS.
October 10, 2009 11:42 AM
"Signor Ferrari said...
Obviously, there's nothing in that testimony that shows the system was hidden from DeWeese, just that it was hidden from general use. In fact, as you quote, "I think a couple people used it. I don't know exactly who." Possibly DeWeese. Certainly DeWeese staff.
Good effort, though. Keep trying.
October 10, 2009 12:23 PM
RESPONSE:
THE ONLY THING OBVIOUS WAS THAT EITHER YOUR FIRST STATEMENT “THAT NOTHING WAS HIDDEN FROM DEWEESE” WAS AN OUTRIGHT LIE, OR FAILURE OF NERVE ON YOUR PART TO ADMIT YOU DID HIDE THINGS FROM OTHERS.
AND THAT IS NO LONGER IN DISPUTE WITH THE PROOF I PROVIDED FROM THE SAME NEWSPAPERS YOU USED HERE AS WELL AS THE VEON PAPERS YOU POSTED BEFORE THE JUDGE THAT WERE DENIED.
IN ADDITION, ONCE AGAIN TO CORRECT YOUR OWN MISINTERPRETATIONS, DAN REESE NEVER SAID DEWEESE KNEW, OR HIS PEOPLE KNEW, ONCE AGAIN YOU OUTRIGHT LIE. NOW IF MANZO KNEW THAT IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF MANZO HIDING THINGS FROM DEWEESE BECAUSE HE WORKED WITH YOU TWO!
DAN RESSE ACTUALLY SAID:
"""Then in the last couple months after everybody got fired (AFTER DEWEESE FOUND OUT) and Sandy Williams got brought on board, (HIRED BY DEWEESE TO REPLACE MANZO) I kind of brought that to her attention, that we had this. We were getting ready to roll out a new upgraded CTS system which we had reprogrammed and upgraded it a little bit. I mention this to her. I was a little concerned about it. Do we really want to include this? And later, no. It's kind of been scrapped since then."""
RESPONSE:
DEWEESE AND HIS CHIEF OF STAFF SCRAPPED YOUR HIDDEN CTS OPERATION WHEN DAN RESSE TOLD THEM ABOUT IT.
ONCE AGAIN, I HAVE PROVEN FROM VEON'S OWN PAPERS THINGS WERE KEPT FROM DEWEESE.
DEWEESE DID THE RIGHT THING, HE INVESTIGATED WHAT HAPPEN AND ORDER COOPERATION WITH THE OAG. SOME COOPERATED OTHERS REFUSED, WHICH ARE YOU???
HE CUT LOOSE THOSE THAT DID NOT COOPERATE WITH CHADWICK INVESTIGATION
Oh? Has he cut loose chief counsel Bill Sloane, who failed to comply with a subpoena and withheld a document which implicates Kevin Sidella?
GUYS AND GALS, PLEASE DO NOT CHANGE MY TYPE.
RESPONSE:
THE MAJORITY OF EMAILS SURROUND ALL OF YOU IS IN FAR MORE NUMBERS WITH FAR MORE ADMISSIONS THAN ANY OTHER LAWMAKERS.
THE VEON FLINGS LISTED WHAT STAFFERS AND LAWMAKERS WERE IN CHARGE OF THE HDCC CAMPAIGNS AND IT WAS "NOT" DEWEESE. VEON LAWYERS BY RELEASING THIS INFORMATION ACTUALLY EXONERATED DEWEESE.
YOU ARE JUST MAD DEWEESE ORDER AN INVESTIGATION AND REFUSED A COVER UP AND YOUR BLAME HIM FOR YOUR ARRESTS WHEN IT IS ACTUALLY LAGROTTA, MANZO, FOREMAN, AND LAVELLE AND WEBBS.
October 10, 2009 11:42 AM
I am in agreement you far more than in disagreement. Yet, when you attack others from Eachus to DeWeese to McCall to other Lawmakers, I must defend, as I have defended you on much of these charges are not criminal, just sloppy practices that amount to ethical violations more than criminal intent.
If you did do Criminal Acts you cannot say you did not, and others did!
"DAN REESE NEVER SAID DEWEESE KNEW,"
Nor did he say he tried to hide it from DeWeese.
"Signor Ferrari said...
"HE CUT LOOSE THOSE THAT DID NOT COOPERATE WITH CHADWICK INVESTIGATION
Oh? Has he cut loose chief counsel Bill Sloane, who failed to comply with a subpoena and withheld a document which implicates Kevin Sidella?
October 10, 2009 12:56 PM"
RESPONSE:
DEWEESE ORDERED ALL TO COOPERATE WITH CHADWICK AND THE OAG, THE OAG HAS TALKED TO ALL OF THEM AND SOME HAVE GONE BEYOND THE GRAND JURY BASED ON WHAT I READ.
THE BIG POINT AND DIFFERENCE YOU ARE MISSING, IS DEWEESE REFUSED A COVER UP, ORDER COOPERATION TO FIND OUT WHAT HAPPEN, TOOK ACTION BY FIRING PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE OR HID THINGS, ADMITTED MISTAKES TOO, AND HE WAS THE ONLY LAWMAKER TO DO IT FROM ALL FOUR CAUCUSES.
THOSE ARE ACTIONS OF AN HONEST LEADER BEING A VICTIM HIMSELF OF DECEIT, PLUS HE ADMITTED PRACTICES HAVE BEEN GOING ON FAR TOO LONG IN ALL FOUR CAUCUSES.
HE NEVER SAID HE WAS PERFECT, BUT HE DID HELP PUT IN REFORMS BY WHAT WAS DISCOVERED, AND HE ACTED AS PUBLIC LEADERS SHOULD ACT WHEN NEEDING TO FIND OUT WHAT HAPPEN.
DEWEESE DID THE RIGHT THING AND THE RIGHT THING IS TO COOPERATE WITH THE OAG INVESTIGATION.
LAGROTTA, MANZO, FOREMAN, AND LAVELLE ONLY DID IT AFTER BEING CAUGHT AND NOW ARE TESTIFYING AGAINST YOU ALL.
And you say you don't work for DeWeese.
I agree there is much unfairness with the process, but this is what Lawyers should work out with the OAG.
Yet, you guys attack Corbett, OAG Staffers, and other lawmakers on issues you should resolve together.
Corbett and many at the OAG and almost all Lawmakers and Staffers have admitted this in public.
There was a time when all of this could have been resolved, but cooperation was not forthcoming, and now such good people caught up with tardy practices that could have been repaid.
We all make mistakes.
"Signor Ferrari said...
And you say you don't work for DeWeese. October 10, 2009 1:09 PM"
RESPONSE:
No, I do not, I have defended him here and you too and even some Guilty Pleaders.
It is just a great mess and I know in your hearts most just thought they were doing their jobs, this is my point, but you insist on saying others are guilty of crimes, when you do it, you undercut my and your own arguments.
I hope and pray you all are found Not Guilty, I truly do!
You don't throw away a whole life just 'cause it's banged up a little.
BY THE WAY, MY FINEST RESPONSE TO ALL THIS IS MY MOST HONEST RESPONSE.....BY FAR, ALL OF YOU AND ALL CHARGED HAVE DONE SO MUCH MORE WITH THEIR LIVES AND SERVED THE PEOPLE OF PENNSYLVANIA FAR MORE THAN ANYTHING THEY KNOW, AND BY NO MEANS ARE EVIL CRIMINALS, ONLY THE GOVERNMENT HATERS AND CYNICS WANT YOUR HEADS, IN THE END, YOU WILL WIN THEIR HEARTS TOO, YOU ARE GOOD PEOPLE CAUGHT UP WITH A VERY TOUGH PREDICAMENTS THAT I WISH ON NO ONE.
CORBETT AND OAG KNOW IT TOO BUT HAVE A DUTY TO THE PEOPLE AND WHY I ADVOCATE A BETTER WAY AND I AM LAUGHED AT FOR ADVOCATING IT.
In all honesty, based on all I have read and heard here, DeWeese is the only Public Servat that did the right thing.
Cry all you want, attack and question, but DeWeese stood tall when all others fell.
WHAT CASABLANCAPA WON’T PUT UP ON CASABLANCAPA:
Old News again by Team Casa targeting DeWeese with one Email.
Now put up all the Emails sent by Team (Charged With Crimes) Casa to all Legislators, do they number in what thousands or just a one or two?
Tell me, did any Legislator at anytime rate and grade staffers on how they campaigned and then were awarded bonuses for their campaign work, because Team (Indictees) Casa
did just that in emails.
Staffers running the HDCC Re-Election of Incumbents Campaign were the same people rating, judging, finger pointing, and then recommending bonuses by them, of them and for them.
Manzo was smart he copped a plea because he knew what he did, Foreman followed, and Lavelle joined them. Manzo admitted in public he did things using DeWeese name without DeWeese knowing. Foreman has testified it is difficult to separate Constituent Service from campaigning and Pleaded Guilty. Lavelle admitted his job as assign by Veon was to raise money on State Time as directed and knew it was wrong.
Is it about time you put up those emails by, of, and for Team Casa that rated and paid out the bonuses without many of their Legislators Bosses not knowing.
Once everyone can see those emails, it is easy to discern those that did some campaign work on some state versus those Team Casa Indictees that work all the time on campaigns on state time all of the time.
Or Is That The Kind Of Truth News You Avoid Here?
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